People love their shoes and I might if I could find a pair to buy. Using the handy website for real shoes in a shoe store is enough to make you really mad at the first phone answerer and then the second. Apparently the web people have no info re the stores and what they have or will not have but not really able to discuss this without a long convo. I could have used mean words and/or insulted the age/sex/tone of the worker but I choose to be upset at the situation and the lack of info not insult the workes with rude stuff like I have seen lately, sadly from some Elites. grr. I will find these shoes maybe.