JTS Firearms and Training

This is my experience with JTS and what transpired as a result of the actions of the owner of JTS. And as it turned out, this, unfortunately, was the worst firearms transactions I’ve ever had.
Towards the end of May this year, I had purchased a pistol from another local firearms dealer. Everything in the transaction went well and smoothly. In order to purchase a pistol in CA, the following applies:
1. A mandatory background check done by the California Department of Justice (CA DOJ).
2. A minimum 10 day wait period before buyer can take possession of the firearm.
3. No more than ONE pistol allowed to be applied for transfer through the CA DOJ Dealer Record of Sale of Firearm (DROS) system within any 30 day period (One pistol in 30 day law).
As luck would have it, I had found another pistol that I had been searching for from an out of state dealer. I had made the purchase and searched various firearms web site for local FFL that could do the transfer with minimal fees. I came across JTS Firearms with a transaction fee of $ 40.00. I called and spoke with the owner Jeff and agreed on the cost in addition CA DOJ DROS fee of $ 25.00. I made arrangement with the out of state dealer to ship the pistol to JTS. (Note: at this time, I did not search Unilocal as it would have saved me a lot of time and aggravation).
Being quite aware of the CA one pistol in 30 day law, the pistol arrived at JTS well before the expiration of the 30 days from my first pistol purchase. I advised JTS of this fact and we should push the transfer of this 2^nd pistol until after the expiration of the clock on my first pistol purchase. The time stamp on the DROS form is down to the second and technically speaking, a new DROS application may be submitted anytime after the expiration of that time (confirmed by the CA DOJ spokes person), but realistically, no one is going to look at trying to split the time that closely down to the second. I looked at the first purchase expiration date and the time and I made an appointment with Jeff on that date to do the paper work.
It is the buyer’s responsibility to know when the 30 day period expires to be able to buy the 2^nd pistol without having the DROS be rejected. That is the reason why I brought my DROS form from the 1^st dealer to show Jeff the exact time he may send in the DROS application. My mistake was that I arrived at JTS too early and filling out the paperwork went quickly and Jeff completely ignored what I’ve stated to him several times and hit the ‘send’ button on his computer about 17 minutes too early — that is before the expiration of the 30 day period. The 30 day period is actually 30 twenty four hour periods and is why the DOJ printout is down to the minutes and seconds. It is completely legal to do a second purchase transfer on the expiration date as long as time is after the latest delivery date/​time. I didn’t realize what had transpired until after I walked out of JTS and looking at the new DROS form and my first DROS form and comparing the time stamped dates & time frame. Not much could be done at that point and will have to wait for the result from the CA DOJ.
The DROS application was rejected for violating the 30 day law. I contacted the CA DOJ and was advised to let this DROS 30 day period run out and then send in a new application rather than doing anything immediate. So I advised Jeff of this and made an appointment for another DROS.
The 2^nd DROS went though with no issues and I was able to pick up the pistol, finally, after the mandatory 10 day period. After all the dust had settled and cleared, I requested of JTS Firearms to refund me the cost of the 2^nd DROS, as this was not an error on my part as I had advised him at least 3 times and even brought the DROS from the first dealer as documented proof. Without even looking at the document, JTS advised the three pieces of time stamped information were meaningless and gave some story of what the first dealer needed to do to enter the transaction into the DOJ database. I contacted more than three other local FFL dealers as well as the CA DOJ and were told that what JTS advised was not correct. The time stamped information on the DROS form is in fact critical to the application of the law. The cost of the 2^nd DROS with JTS was disputed with my credit card company and I was issued a full refund.
Bottom line — Don’t waste time with this FFL. Read the other reviews as apparently, this level of sloppiness was not unique to my transaction.

Jeff was amazingly helpful! My wife and I made the mistake of signing up for a ccw class instead of a beginner course like we wanted. We sure felt stupid but he saved us some dignity by offering to give us the class we intended to sign up for the next day. We went through a beginner training class with us and he taught us so much, how to handle, shoot, load and clean our guns.
He let us shoot a lot of different guns and let us use his ammo which isn’t cheap to give us experience on different guns so we weren’t guessing when we purchased our first guns. We left that class feeling comfortable with buying our first guns and with a lot of knowledge.
We purchased our guns a few weeks later with him because he was by far the cheapest and we felt comfortable asking him questions and he gave great advice based on our needs.
I would recommend him to anyone, especially those new to the gun world. He won’t take advantage of you, is super nice and a really great guy!
Plus a retired Marine. Do yourself a favor, support the troops, get a great deal and support a local small business.

I’ve been working with Jeff consistently for the past few months; my husband and I took his NRA pistol safety course and obtained our firearm safety certificates through him prior to buying our first firearms through hum. Now we have completed our CCW training course with him, and our on-​range and classroom courses were straightforward, fun, and very informative.
My husband and I both left our courses feeling confident in our training and very comfortable owning and handling our first handguns. Everything has gone extremely smoothly and has been pleasant; we were so glad to be working with someone as knowledgable as Jeff. He has decades of experience with all firearms — and to top it off, he’s a retired Marine!
We’ll be making additional purchases through him in the next few months and will continue to do so in the future. We’ve been suggesting Jeff to our local family & friends and we definitely recommend him to you all!

If you are looking for a seasoned professional to handle your FFL then go look elsewhere.
His services are a bit on the cheaper side compared to others in the area but the headache you encounter will make you wish you could pay twice as much t make it go away.
My experience with JTS was beyond abysmal. If there was anything that could go wrong, it did. I had informed him that the address on my DL was not the same as my current one and submitted proof of it. He instead submitted my old address to the DOJ. Not only that, he even filled out the fields incorrectly on his end which resulted in my paperwork being flagged by the DOJ. I only found this out when the 10 days passed I called to schedule a time to pickup my firearm. He kept telling me that he did not know why my paperwork was flagged by the DOJ and that his system shows they have sent out the paperwork to explain all of this to me. When I asked him what address it was sent to; he repeated my old address. I told him that I had pointed out several times when filling out the paperwork that my current address is different, he responded by saying «oh.well.it’s too late now. There is nothing I can do now. You just have to wait for the DOJ to contact you»
Seeing as to how he gave the DOJ incorrect information on how to contact me, I took it upon myself to call them and find out what happened. I found out that he had entered some of my information incorrectly by putting it in the wrong field and even transposed a couple of numbers. Once I was able to correct it and submit proof to the DOJ, they cleared my transaction in less than an hour. I then called him to verify and informed him of what had just happened. His response to that was «The DOJ doesn’t know how to do paperwork correctly».
I was able to pick up my firearm the next day but I am never ever going back to this business again.
Update on 7÷15÷2015
You can see the owner’s comments below regarding my review.
Suffice it to say his comments regarding my paperwork being expired are completely inaccurate and utterly false. Does it also make sense that he accepted and submitted «expired» paperwork to the DOJ the first time around? Are you kidding me? How is that even possible!!?
Also, how is it that he supposedly remembers my specific transaction from more than 2 – 4 years ago? hmm. could it be that he just put in the first thing that came to mind and seemed plausible, instead of verifying facts? Oh wait, that’s probably exactly what he did when handling my paperwork the first time! I’m sorry, but after this display or poor management skills and false statements, I am even further convinced not to ever engage in business with this place.

Jeffery handled a transfer for me in December and the process was as smooth as can be expected. Even though he was in the middle of moving to a new office, he dropped everything and handled the DROS immediately. I used 3 other FFL shops in the past in OC. I knew it was a serious transaction and would get very tense about it. But with Jeffrey I was able to chat along and ask all sorts of questions while he’s doing the DROS.
During the DROS process we found that the out-​of-​state sender didn’t provide sufficient paperwork. Jeffrey reached out to him over the weekend and I didn’t have to do a thing.
Friendly, patient and efficient. Now I see no reason to drive extra miles to other FFL dealers.

I recently purchased a rifle from Ratworx and had JTS handle the transfer, since he is very close to my residence. Had a great transaction with him and found him to be very pleasant.
I can’t say that my experience was anything like the previous reviewer. JTS lists a mobile and office line and I used the other if one didn’t connect. Leaving a message yielded a timely call-​back, as well.
He’s a former Marine and one busy cat, who is often conducting on-​range training sessions. With a little forethought and planning he is easily accessible. I will use him for future transactions when possible.

Just had another fantastic transaction with Jeff at JTS Firearms. I found JTS a month or so ago when purchasing a NAA Mini Master from Gun Broker. So now I just acquired (3) ⁹¹⁄₃₀ Mosin Nagant rifles purchased from Classic Firearms and shipped to JTS for the transfer. Jeff has been very helpful in explaining the differences in C&R firearms. So I completed the paperwork for the Mosins during the pick up of the Mini Master and waited for Classic to ship them out. As soon as they arrived Jeff gave me a courtesy call to come down and pick them up. What a fantastic experience these past purchases have been. I just purchased an Archangel stock for one of these Mosins while waiting in transit. However once I picked them up and cleaned the cosmo from them they were just too pretty to stuff into a poly stock. So now I’m ordering a couple of «B» grade Mosins for the next project and will ship them to JTS again. There has never been an uncomfortable moment from start to finish. Jeff was very helpful answering all my inquiries and responded back in above average time frame. His ship in rates and fees are hard pressed to beat, nobody around can touch it. Now I’ve purchased plenty of firearms in the past from brick and mortar stores, most of the time I felt like a number not a person and heaven forbid I ask a stupid question because I usually got a stupid answer and even felt degraded at times from those places. Jeff has always made me feel welcomed, gave me great advice and insight along the way. He even went above and beyond to give me a look at his cost book on prices he pays for some other firearms I’m looking to purchase in the near future. I will always give him a call first for price comparison, and so far he can’t be beat! Now if your looking for a great FFL dealer that will go above and beyond the call of duty to get you the best deal, make you feel like a valued customer, answer all your questions and give you great advice… Then give Jeff a call at JTS Firearms. I look forward to a long business relationship with JTS as Jeff is now my number one go to guy for all things firearm related. Thank you Jeff for always being top notch!

Stay away at all cost as an FFL transfer, contacted Jeffery through all avenues available, Email, Phone, Cellphone. Called during regular business hours, immediately went to voice mail on both occasions on different days. Do your self a favor, avoid this FFL Transfer. Unprofessional in all aspects, didn’t even receive an response email after I informed him of a firearm being shipped to the individual. Consequently I had to call up the website and inform them that this FFL wasn’t returning Phone calls and emails, They had to cancel my order and reissue my order to ANOTHER FFL. A headache that can full be avoidable.